âThe art often follows the chaos; it doesnât always arise in the moment itself.â
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Chaos isnât Symbaâs adversary. Itâs the raw material his music is built from. Moving between the studio, his inner circle, and the messiness of real life, he navigates emotions and impulses that often erupt from the uncontrollable. Anger, doubt, love â all of it flows into his tracks, but the final product emerges from the chaos. vakuum Issue 4 digital cover star Symba shows that giving up control is sometimes the only way to create authentic art â and that love is stronger than any hate.
Read the full editorial now in German for vakuum print Issue 4 “Chaos/Ordnung.”
Have you ever felt like you were losing control? How did you deal with it?
Yes. I think everyone experiences that at some point. Having full control is impossible. You can only learn to deal with the loss of control â through experience and awareness of your own emotions. For me, that often happened with anger or conflict, with parents, friends, or on the street. When you react too impulsively, regret often follows. Thatâs why itâs important to pause and sometimes look at situations from a birdâs-eye view.
Does chaos give you creative power or does it hold you back?
A certain form of chaos is almost unavoidable for creativity. Everyday life, emotions and society â all of that provides impulses. But art for me emerges after the chaos, not in the moment itself.
"You shouldnât measure creativity only by the final product. If you stay in the moment, the result becomes by proxy more honest."
What emotions do you go through while creating?
I used to be tense in the studio, thinking: This has to work now. Today Iâm more relaxed. If nothing comes out, thatâs okay â then it was just a session. You shouldnât measure creativity only by the final product. If you stay in the moment, the result becomes by proxy more honest. Now I feel less pressure in the studio, more focus â and often this beautiful feeling of realizing: Damn, weâre really doing this. That is pure love. Of course, there are moments when you get stuck on a rhyme, but thatâs part of it. Success is never linear. Sometimes ideas flow, sometimes not at all. In the end, gratitude counts â and the right people around you.
Are there moments where you consciously give up control?
I used to struggle with that. Today I know trust is incredibly valuable. I often direct music videos, but without stress, because I work with friends I trust. Itâs like a relay race â I donât have to sprint everything alone. On a larger scale, I let go when I have no ideas. Then I consciously take distance, stay out of the studio for weeks, avoid social media. Distance is the best advisor. Often it helps to spend time with friends or try something new. Recently my girlfriend and I bought painting supplies to paint at home.
What upsets you most in everyday life?
Hate.
And what counters it?
Love. It is stronger than hate â but it needs work. Love isnât a permanent state; you have to nurture it: in relationships, friendships, and social interactions.
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How does your artistic self differ from your personal self?
Theyâre deeply connected. Symba is not a fictional persona but a part of me. Sometimes Symba is even more honest than Sylvian. Both go hand in hand.
What feelings should listeners get from your music?
Whatever fits the song â sadness, love, or self-confidence. What matters is that people see themselves in it and have a good time. Even in sad songs, there should always be a glimmer of hope.
"Being brave doesnât always mean going against the grain."
In which moment did you grow as a person and as an artist?
Whenever I was brave. As a teenager, I studied directing and then took the leap into music â unconventional but honest. Being brave doesnât always mean going against the grain. It means staying true to yourself.
Have you ever had a moment where you thought: âWhat am I even doing here?â
Of course. Itâs not a 9-to-5 job. But I always return to the point: art matters. It nourishes people. Everyone is an artist, consciously or not â and I know Iâm doing the right thing.
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- Dr. Martens
And how do you deal with your own expectations?
I set expectations high. If I donât meet them, thatâs okay as long as I gave everything. And if I didnât give everything, the world wonât end either.
Which work, album or film puts you in a good mood?
My comfort thing is âHarry Potterâ â love it above everything. Also âFĂŒr Elise,â âBlowinâ in the Windâ, âMy Funny Valentineâ, âIll Mind of Hopsin 7â, everything from XXXTENTACION â and of course Tupac.
Are you someone who wears their heart on their sleeve or is more introspective?
A mix. A few years ago, at 20, I told myself: I just want to be honest. But thatâs not always easy. I donât want to hurt anyone. Honesty is a process for me, depending on who youâre talking to â I speak differently with my father than with friends or my girlfriend.
Is there a quote that moved you recently?
My WhatsApp status: âAmor Fatiâ â love of fate. And a sentence from Martin Luther King that went something like: âIn the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies but the silence of our friends.â
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- H&M x Glenn Martens
- Pants:
- Rick Owens
- Boots:
- Dr. Martens
What role does love play in your life and your work?
A huge one. Iâm sensitive and let a lot affect me. I feel love everywhere â for my girlfriend, family, friends, for Berlin. Also in small moments: a mother duck at the lake, cows on a Swiss mountain, a sunset in Sardinia. These moments make life worth living.
If you could give your work a compliment, what would it be?
I stay true to myself.
Symba is wearing the new 1460 Rain Boot by Dr. Martens, available for 140⏠via Dr. Martens.